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Smash 4 Frame Data Site - www.kuroganehammer.com

www.kuroganehammer.com is a website dedicated to creating frame data pages for every character in Smash 4.

Currently there are about 8 or 9 pages so far, but with new content being added every few days, I thought I might as well share it with everyone on here so that they can give feedback or whatever.

05/09/2015 14:46:18

Victoria Toon Link
Deez
3DS: 4425-2461-9026
Wii U: Tarkanator
Aero, are you able to put on the frame data about Lucario's old brawl mechanic being put back in?
07/27/2015 11:29:11

Revax said:
Christmas has come early - thank you based Aerodrome!
Sorry it took so long.
http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Game%20And%20Watch

Beep Beep BELL NOISES
http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Diddy%20Kong

Hoo.

Hah.
08/03/2015 13:07:20

Victoria Kirby
JLo
3DS: 5086-1719-4466
Wii U: thatdudejono
ty based Aerodrome

08/03/2015 20:49:45

am definitely based

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Zero%20Suit%20Samus

ZERO SKILL SAMUS DOWN THROWS THE COMPETITION
08/05/2015 11:50:29

how come sometimes when i jump above a player, i'll do this huuuge jump but not actually foot stool them?

Also what does "cannot rebound" mean?

Also when does the aerial raptor boost spike?

Also how do I good? How do I good at game?
08/05/2015 13:07:33

Queensland Zero Suit Samus
Jett
3DS: 1134-8491-5287
Wii U: JettWilliams
TY based Aero, Zero Skill Samus skill level 2high
08/05/2015 13:36:03

Western Australia Mr. Game and Watch
Maribro
Wii U: brandoncmk
GIRL said:
how come sometimes when i jump above a player, i'll do this huuuge jump but not actually foot stool them?

Also what does "cannot rebound" mean?

Also when does the aerial raptor boost spike?

Also how do I good? How do I good at game?


1) It's still a footstool, it's just the person being footstooled is doing another action, such as shielding or attacking, and as such cannot be put into the footstool state.

2) You know when two attacks clank and both characters enter a "rebound" animation? Well "Cannot rebound" means it clanks but the animation continues. Examples of these moves are Mac Ftilt, Villager Ftilt and Jiggs Dash attack.

3) When you space it right. The hand has a meteor hitbox when swinging downwards.

4) Idk either. I'm from Perth and am therefore automatically a scrub. Maybe ask one of the many good players in QLD.
08/06/2015 07:47:28

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Link

Xettman reminded me that I did this yesterday.
And here's the cheap knockoff version (who is also the better character):

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Toon%20Link
http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/Donkey%20Kong
08/11/2015 13:55:03

<title>Zero Skill Samus - Kurogane Hammer</title>

Cheeky.
08/11/2015 22:32:07

More like Zero Skill to Beat Samus.
08/11/2015 22:56:19

No. No it isn't.
08/11/2015 23:10:03

Trust me, Zero Suit Samus is not a good character.

Source: 7 years of playing a garbage character
08/11/2015 23:20:01

She is though. If she wasn't you wouldn't play her.
Neither would nairo or whatever his silly name is.
08/11/2015 23:51:07

The ultimate counter to Zero Suit is the legendary "roll towards her" strategy.

Your matchup with Zero Suit is literally entirely dependent on if your roll and jump are good enough to avoid dash grab.

She's still solid as a character though, I'd put her top 7-8 personally.
08/12/2015 00:08:12

"The ape with a tie" instead of "the leader of the bunch"?

For shame.
08/12/2015 01:09:06

I would say 'hold shield' and 'space better'.

No competent ZSS player should be letting you get that close without having some sort of pressure applied. Her fundamental issue is that shield beats everything she can do, because her grab is godawful.

It's purely a measure of whether your opponent is a) poorly positioned b) not ready for the possibility for a grab c) doing stupid rolls.

Dash grabbing landings is truly OP though.
08/12/2015 02:23:18

GIRL said:
"The ape with a tie" instead of "the leader of the bunch"?

For shame.
its too long and i hate dk
08/12/2015 02:28:59

You hate DK? What else do you hate? Cake? Sunny days? Friendship?
08/12/2015 03:44:37


Victoria Pikachu
Lenrap
No data
Senpai plz do VIllager
08/22/2015 03:52:47


Victoria Villager
Villyness
3DS: 2664-2676-2381
Wii U: SuckerFlash
poke

Can we pls have Villager frame data next~? :D

08/25/2015 12:52:51

Villyness said:
poke

Can we pls have Villager frame data next~? :D

I have ROBs ready for publishing, but I'll try after that if I can.
08/25/2015 12:54:02

kurangehamlet.com
08/26/2015 05:17:36

http://kuroganehammer.com/Smash4/R.O.B/

beep boop
08/31/2015 12:19:53

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