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Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Lachaln could've been hinting at arsonist.

I already said my thoughts on the other page really. I don't think he's mafia, but needs to talk more.

He's talked a bit more I guess so I'm fine with pressuring Murkiri.

I find what dean and bijou are saying is interesting and they could be on to something, but I feel top priority should be to get murkiri, lachlan and corvid to talk more. We need to get the more inactive players to talk more so they stop being negative utilities. This is always my priority atleast when we have nothing solid. Idk it just bugs me.

If we get murkiri to talk, I say we focus on corvid next.
12/16/2016 15:02:59

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
It's been said a bit already but I feel I should say it anyway.

All voting for 1 week instead of 2 does is limit the time we have to gather information and make the best choice we can reason with the provided information, for a lynch.

It makes little sense I don't know why people would be in favour of it.

Another thing that's also been said is the fact that most people complaining are people who haven't voted or said much in the first place..

I'm in general agreeance with pressuring lachlan to talk. I personally doubt he will say much of use even if he was put on L-1 lol. With windkeeper's vote I think there's enough pressure for now though, so I'll refrain from voting.

Also regarding Dean and Bijou saying Spacejam is playing differently, could you please elaborate? It could be that you guys know him more and stuff, but other than him being arguably less active than last game I would've thought he's playing pretty similarly.

Also, going for a no lynch is still an odd choice imo, I don't really see the benefit.

- We're still stuck with more negative utilities (assuming we would choose to lynch one of them)
- We'll be statistically less likely to hit mafia day 2
- We will get less information from only night actions, than from a lynch + night actions putting us in a worse spot for day 2. We'll be stuck in a day 1-esque situation with less to go off of.
- It'll be harder for town to communicate and reach a decision effectively, drawing back to the aforementioned negative utilities that do not post, or say nothing of substance.

Haven't been able to post in a while so this is all that's on my mind from since I last had a proper check. Thoughts?
12/16/2016 04:05:00

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Maribro I think stating that would've been put to better use if you said that later on in the game. Mafia will probably try to avoid any noticeable trends in who they vote for now, unless they get desperate.

I agree with hydro on the lynch day 1. Imo mafia would probably be more inclined to vote for a no lynch.. it gives mafia a free kill, and town is no better off than the day before.

I'm for a talley, but we'll get little information from a no lynch and we'll be a man down. All in fears of maybe lynching a power role, which shouldn't even happen if they actually defend themselves. It just doesn't seem worth it..

We'll see how the majority feels I guess
12/14/2016 04:12:00

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
@CJ

Don't have much to say really, I misread it. Thought he was talking about lynching day 1 risks revealing roles so it's better to not lynch at all.

Good on you for pointing that out actually, it'll be good if you can pick up on other things throughout the game.

At the moment it looks like the two bigger leads are Corvid and Lachlan.

With lachlan, I think it's just him being bad in general, rather than being maf/scum but something to still look into if you see fit.
12/13/2016 22:05:42

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
It'd be someone who has acted the most anti-town/scummy. Whether through their actions, or the lack of actions (ie being inactive/not contributing).

Our aim at the moment is to let the day be dragged out for the maximum dialogue to be said. You might see some players be more pushy and impatient and typically those are mafia players who want minimal communication between town and quick lynches to occur.
12/13/2016 09:15:46

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
I can't really be bothered going through the messages right now, but regarding the votes:

Bijou (1) - Corvid
Autumnwind (1) - Spacejam,
Corvid (3) - JLo, ThatLaggyPerson, Insertname
Spacejam (1) - Dean

What's the reasoning behind the votes? and if they're just meme votes, why bother.

I think i recall a thing where corvid voted for bijou for no reason and that's why he has a couple votes atm?

Would be nice if Corvid could say why.

12/13/2016 07:56:14

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
That's a good point actually. But I don't think it's wise to base our gameplan on a hunch that there's more power roles than usual.

Plus, I doubt that someone with a power role would do nothing to prevent themselves from being lynched.. I see what you mean though.

Do you have any ideas on what should be done atm?
12/13/2016 05:05:12

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
For those who either are too lazy to check, or can't; here's the important information from the top comment that maribro mentioned:

"You can not simulate a game of mafia with random numbers. It doesn't work. In fact not only has attempting to do so historically (both at amateur and professional levels) been incorrect, the results are often the opposite of true.

Mafia is a game of information and trust. Not of random chance. You don't lynch people on the first day without information because it's statistically likely to lead to a beneficial result when it's completely randomized. You do it because gathering information on the players and forcing people to interact is how you make your decisions on who to investigate and who to lynch later in the game more accurate."

I still agree with Maribro, JLo and CJ on lynching day 1. We should draw the day out as long as we can to get the most information (however little it may be).
oh rip just realised the mafia link was a forum too lmao.

Here's the top comment for that one too.

"That doesn't seem like a huge difference, yes town wins more games they no lynch. But does that have to do with game mechanics at all? Like, some games mechanics are much different than all. So this data isn't as reliable as you may expect.

Though I agree, we tend to lynch more town than scum day 1.

If you townread everyone in the game is the only reason you should not lynch someone. Though that is often rare. I don't think players should compromise onto lynching a townread of theirs."
12/13/2016 04:36:00

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
While I somewhat agree with you wind, going the 'let's lynch the least useful player atm' strategy is what lost us the game last time.

It doesn't make sense to make that approach again.

I think we should just wait it out for now and try to gather more information.

On a side note, Lumi's suggestion of not lynching is also a bit odd considering this has been brought to attention in multiple games now, but it could be the inexperience.
12/12/2016 11:43:47

Really Random Tournament 2

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
matts and dark hurry up

fml
12/12/2016 07:01:17

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
I derped hard and left my laptop and phone charger at a smash tourney 60km away so I won't be able to use either to play until friday.

I'll try use my brother's PC but no guarantee being very active.
12/11/2016 04:06:09

Sun and Moon Themed Mafia | GAME OVER | Town Wins!

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
sign me up please
12/07/2016 12:10:02

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Now that you mention it his posts have been much higher quality than the article in articulation k e k. But joke or not that could mean something e.g. Assistance in making posts and what to say blah blah.

Wind's been playing very similarly to how he played when I was mafia with him, something to note.

12/06/2016 12:10:06

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Not gonna lie I've become pretty impatient with the game.

I agree with your post tbh for the most part. I'm not too sure on the Autumnwind choice though.
12/06/2016 11:56:05

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Mafia's 3 biggest threats morelike
12/06/2016 07:36:13

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Dean confirmed mafia.

Vote: Hydropimp

I stand by the reasoning that has been put forth so far.
12/06/2016 06:21:01

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
It's also good because if Hydro flips mafia, then Ghost is 100% confirmed mafia.

If we go for say Basty, we have no lead beyond that.
12/05/2016 11:28:39

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
There's little else to do except vote for the most logical person at this point.

On this day, that person is hydro.
12/05/2016 04:36:58

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
We're watching SXC
12/04/2016 07:36:48

Really Random Tournament 2

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Beat Lachlan (Battledolphin) 2-0
12/02/2016 17:16:14

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
That's true.

Running with that theory, couldn't we narrow down who the inactive mafia could have been?

E.g. Dyna, Insert and Basty who weren't there when votes/posts were being made at the time.
12/02/2016 08:26:58

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
That's a fair point. Given the circumstances, I'd assume the latter is more likely.

A third possibility is that assuming he is part of mafia, other mafia members could vote for him to seem town if/when he flips town. Unlikely and not necessary, but if the mafia are super cautious about being caught out they might try that.

But imo, assuming that CJ, Autumnwind and I are town, mafia would rather quick-hammer him if he was town and get a certain win. They had a chance to do that and did not.
if/when he flips mafia* kek
12/02/2016 08:15:32

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Yeah that looks like the one
o messages.

Yeah that was to CJ
You could say the vote was a bit hasty, but you need to apply pressure. If other people want to vote as well that's their choice not mine.

Interesting to note though is that mafia had the chance to quick hammer him to win the game, but didn't.

Maybe they were unlucky and just weren't on, but I'd assume mafia would be some of the more active players that would seize on such an opportunity.

It's just too strange. You must admit you two being neighbourizers is just odd. A neatly packed alibi that can't be proven or disproven. It's too perfect.

The only thing that could be considered a flaw is the fact you claimed 1-shot watcher when we already had one but that could easily be the truth.
12/01/2016 14:43:14

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
If I recall correctly there was some thing ages back where Insert and Ghost basically said the same thing (saying eachother were most likely town and that the same people were mafia) at almost the same time. Could've been a communication error if a post like that was organised, but could easily be coincidence.
12/01/2016 12:30:33

Mafia is Back | game over, mafia win

Queensland Duck Hunt Duo
MrL
  • Wii U: Benjamin01
Mafia had more reward than risk, with eliminating Duon. We're at lylo now I believe? Considering we only have 2 potential mafia members in question, and a third completely unknown it's pretty safe to take the risk of going for a more predictable kill (especially with an easy defense of saying it'd be too obvious or accusing anyone of seeing a connection as grasping at straws/being mafia).

Interesting to see Ghost become more aggressive and assertive in opions, after playing cautiously all game.

I don't see how one could argue I'm acting scummy by agreeing with two high-level confirmed townies tbh. It's more suspicious that anyone would try to write off the credibility of that train of thought by throwing the word mafia my way.
12/01/2016 10:13:12

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